Parker Hale 98 rifle are good

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kalli

29.09.2009,
7:01 pm

Young hunter / first rifle

I am a young hunter and need a rifle at short notice. My gun instructor, who is also a master bookmaker, gave me a well-preserved rifle today:
"Mars", 98System, Made in England, 7x64 with "Mars" optics, reticle 4 available for 570.- .
The weapon is technically and visually "ok". It is shot in and can be used immediately. I wanted to buy a used rifle anyway in order to gain initial experience and probably also requirements for a weapon.
Question: is the purchase ok?

Farmer

29.09.2009,
7:07 pm

@ kalli

Young hunter / first rifle

“I'm a young hunter and need a rifle at short notice. My
“Gun instructor, who is also a master bookmaker, got me a good one today
»Preserved rifle:
»" Mars ", Made in England, 7x64 with" Mars "optics, reticle 4 for 570.-
»Offered.
»The weapon is technically and optically" ok ". She is shot in and immediately
»Applicable. Anyway, I wanted to buy a used rifle first
»About the first experiences and probably also demands on one
“Collect weapon.
»Question: is the purchase ok?

Hello Calli!

Who should the purchase be ok for? For you or those gunsmiths?


Farmer

woodman

29.09.2009,
7:34 pm

@ Farmer

Young hunter / first rifle

I don't want to do your gunsmith injustice and even if you can hardly wait for the first rifle - still take a little time.
Precisely because the price sounds good - if you notice after the initial enthusiasm that you don't like it, then it is 150 euros more expensive. (Enter once in the WBK and then unsubscribe again and then what you lose when reselling).

My tip: Take a look around your circle of friends, take as many rifles as possible in your hand - then you can see what suits you.
And then you go to egun - there you can find high-quality weapons from bequests or similar at a good price
However, you should want to invest three times what you currently offer.

w.

The fact that you don't buy a new syringe at the beginning speaks for your mind.

kalli

29.09.2009,
7:59 pm

@ Farmer

Young hunter / first rifle

»» I'm a young hunter and need a rifle at short notice. My
»» Weapons instructor, who is also a master bookmaker, got one for me today
" Well
»» Preserved rifle:
»» "Mars", Made in England, 7x64 with "Mars" optics, reticle 4 for 570.-
»» Offered.
»» The weapon is technically and optically "ok". She is shot in and
" right away
»» Can be used. Anyway, I wanted a used rifle first
" to buy
»» About the first experiences and presumably also demands on one
»» Collect weapon.
»» Question: is the purchase ok?
»
»Hello Calli!
»
»Who should the purchase be ok for? For you or those gunsmiths?
»
»
" Farmer

Hello,

already for me. The gunsmith is always serving anyway.

Calli

Farmer

29.09.2009,
8:23 pm

@ kalli

Young hunter / first rifle

»
" Hello,
»
“Already for me. The gunsmith is always vied anyway.
»
“Calli

Then take a strategic approach:

Read what Woodman says, you're not in a bad position.

1.) I wouldn't buy at short notice. Borrowing is cheaper.

2.) Should the weapon suit you, or do you want to adapt to it?
(It's like the bucket in the shit house, every ass is different.)

3.) Which price range?
Do you already have a shotgun?
And how big and heavy are you. E.g. at 50kg things look different
than at 100kg. Because with one shot can you do that
Total mess up the meeting, and acquire the grumbling. All so
Attention !

For example, I would say 500 euros invested correctly and you are ready for the next 10 years. Guaranteed with 1000, -Euros!

Then the only thing missing is the opportunity to hunt.

But first take care of the questions.

greeting

Farmer

boar12

29.09.2009,
11:54 p.m.

@ kalli

Young hunter / first rifle

“I'm a young hunter and need a rifle at short notice. My
“Gun instructor, who is also a master bookmaker, got me a good one today
»Preserved rifle:
»" Mars ", 98 system, Made in England, 7x64 with" Mars "optics, reticle 4 for
»570.- offered.
»The weapon is technically and visually" ok ". She is shot in and immediately
»Applicable. Anyway, I wanted to buy a used rifle first
»About the first experiences and probably also demands on one
“Collect weapon.
»Question: is the purchase ok?

hello kalli
first of all the question of what do you want to hunt.
What kind of glass is on the weapon a 6x42 is not suitable for example
the hide on sows.
I would take a little time in your place, the weapons market is so oversized that you can get a Steyer Mannlicher cal. 308 with an 8x52 Zeiss for 580 from my gunsmith, for example.
I don't know where you come from, but there are enough dealers who sell weapons
Sell ​​on commission from older hunters because you may come
cheap to a good weapon.
For example: gunport.de or egun, here is an excerpt from an offer from Egun
hello i am selling an original mauser m 98 from oberndorf in cal. 3006 on it is a vzf. 3-12x56 assembled by Carl Zeiss made in Germany, the weapon and the Zeiss glass are in very good condition
318.00 EUR
Or if you come from near Würzburg then stop by on October 9th and 10th in Rotendorf near Frankonia there is a special sale, you get up to 70% off weapons.

Farmer

30.09.2009,
12:48 a.m.

@ keiler12

Young hunter / first rifle

“What kind of glass is on the weapon, for example a 6x42 is not good
" For
»The hide on sows.

Moin keiler12!

Why this generalization without expertise? A good Branded glass 6x42 is definitely better on sows than any nonsense in x times 56. Should even give hunters who stretch their sows over the rear sight and grain at night. Of course, you can't ask more of a young hunter today.

The topic was young hunters / first rifle:

Better would have been for sure the boy would have asked young hunter / first weapon. Because he already seems to have a shotgun. Or he had a bad instructor. No idea ?

A good trainer tells the young hunters clearly: Folks, as young hunters you don't need the best weapon, you need it the right !
Because when you go hunting for the first time as a young hunter, it's like an application deadline. All so attention:

If you come to the application deadline with a Mercedes S-Class and park next to the boss's Opel that you want to apply to, it inevitably goes bad. In the end, wondering why is naive!
Just as you need the right suit and the right car for your application, as a hunter, especially as a young hunter, you need the right weapon.

A wisdom of life!

Anyone who makes mistakes here need not be surprised if they do not receive any hunting invitations. The little things make the difference.
Because where you are newly wiped out, you will be observed and evaluated very closely.
Buying arms is therefore less of a technical, than a strategic question. As with clothing. Roger that ?

I have no idea what the boy wants. I can't advise him either. If he would say exactly what he wants, one can certainly help him. Even if he has very, very little money. Because real hunters really don't need money. Just passion and understanding!
(Maybe another good teacher.)

Good Hunting

Farmer

UNKAS

30.09.2009,
01:01 am

@ kalli

Young hunter / first rifle

»Question: is the purchase ok?

Look through + you will see ...


Hello kalli,

keep your hands off the 98!
something you buy as a second or third weapon
Buy a combined, drilling, over and under rifle or rifle shotgun as a first weapon.
you can really go anywhere with it for decades. also for driven hunt.
and if you are honest with yourself, all other weapons that you might buy later, such as 98 specialists, are therefore only luxury devices ....
So make sure that you have a variable glass on the combined one and, above all, one with a LEUCHTABSEHEN !!!!
hunting has shifted significantly into the night over the past few decades. the trend is still unbroken. think of the wild boar.

the caliber 7x65 has good vapor, but is a relatively light + fast bullet. i.e. there is a risk of large game board losses.
therefore logically good for long shots.
was THE big fashion caliber in the 70s, 80s and 90s.
However, the statistics lead the searches ...

I'm personally for 8x57IRS or 9.3x74R but everyone has to know for themselves.
shoot + kill all of them from 7mm.


the büma sells you shit in my eyes!
I don't know any office worker who doesn't like to sell what he has in the store.
Only good combinations are rarely used with good glass.
because nobody wants to give these things ... !!!

and you will get annoyed very quickly with the unlit reticle !!!

if the point was that every hunter could only afford one weapon, the vast majority of experienced hunters would choose their combined one.
that's the only way things came about.
if you can raise the coal for it: I'll make my high seat sleep next to a rifle on the high seat calmer if it has a HAND CLAMP ....

UNKAS

BigBen80

30.09.2009,
07:29 am

@ kalli

Young hunter / first rifle

Well, I've had my hunting license for 3 years and the first thing I did was get a shotgun. When choosing a rifle, I took my time. I had the advantage that for the first two years I could borrow a rifle from a hunter friend to go hunting with.
I used the time to put some money aside to buy a weapon that I like afterwards.

I know how hot you are to get a can.

But by borrowing it, I have hunted different rifles and this enables me to look at different weapons and also to shoot.

I would advise everyone if they have the opportunity to try out a few rifles and see what other hunters have.

It is also important what do you need the rifle for and what do I like!

Afterwards I bought a Blaser R 93 with a Swarovski glass and shot it for cheap money at the gunsmith's. And I am 100% satisfied with the weapon.

Good Hunting
BigBen80

Sebaho

30.09.2009,
8:08 am

@ BigBen80

Young hunter / first rifle

MOIN Kalli - are you still there ??? It seems to me you've already bought the gun.

Everyone has their own preferences. Some like combined weapons, others like bolt-action rifles, some like old weapons, others like high-tech // Tradition vrs. Functionality etc ...

After a LONG SEARCH after passing the hunting test. added a Steyer Mannlicher in cal. 30-06. With an 8x56 ZF. In addition, I have now added an old 1.5-6 x 42 for driven hunts ... and then - recently bought a Doctersight from Egun ...

At Egun you can find good used weapons. But as a young hunter I tended to feel overwhelmed there.

I would drive to the shooting range with the gun - the MArs - see how you deal with it and then make a decision. I don't think the caliber 7x64 is wrong. One also says eur. 30-06. Or am I making a mistake now? Is an AllRoud caliber. Ammunition from many manufacturers is easy to get.

Horrido - Zaz

gundhar2

30.09.2009,
8:32 am

@ Sebaho

Young hunter / first rifle

Hello,

7x64 is an all-round caliber, there is nothing wrong with that.
I've never heard of "Mars" as a manufacturer, but it's not that bad either. My first weapon was a "Parker Hale" in 270Win, just such an exotic one. Had a 42 Swarowski on it and cost 900 marks, i.e. 450 €. The arms dealer was glad he got rid of the thing. I still wield the weapon regularly, but I now have a 56 Swaro with LP on it. The thing shoots like poison and that's crucial! So on to the shooting range and let out 10 shots. If you are not so sure about that, take someone who shoots safely.

Greetings Gundhar

swan

30.09.2009,
9:53 a.m.

@ keiler12

Young hunter / first rifle

hello keiler,

is the 98th still available?
a friend of mine is looking for a rifle.

please register you can also send an email.
thanks
schwänchen

swan

30.09.2009,
10:15 am

@ kalli

Young hunter / first rifle

hee kalli,

if you don't have a weapon yet, a combi weapon is best.
my first weapon was a kettner 2000 BBF 30.06 / 12er shot with a glass 8x56, that is still my favorite weapon today. it cost 990.- at egun.

I wish you the best of luck in your search

schwänchen

UNKAS

30.09.2009,
10:45 a.m.

@ Swan

Young hunter / first rifle

»Hee kalli,
»
»If you don't have a weapon yet, a combi weapon is best.
»My first weapon was a kettner 2000 BBF 30.06 / 12er shot with a
»Glass 8x56, that is still my favorite weapon today. Has 990.- at egun
»Cost.
»
»I wish you the best of luck with your search
»
»Schwänchen

Voilà! That's how it is!


UNKAS

Bison

30.09.2009,
2:10 p.m.

@ kalli

Young hunter / first rifle

Hello Calli,
I can only say that B auer said everything with his contribution to this thread this morning at 00:30 - I ran a 6x42 (bald steel) on my old triplet for a decade - so, with a bit of moonlight, that was also possible - and Illuminated reticles did not exist back then!
WH

Sebaho

30.09.2009,
3:50 pm

@ Bison

Young hunter / first rifle

regarding combined weapons ... as the first weapon the best ...

This may be the case in a small game area
Who mostly sits on wild boar and roe deer ...
and often goes on driven hunts!?

I find the Combined less ideal.
of course you can also use rifle bullets
as well as working with insert barrels.

I'm more of a fan of bolt action rifles
one in barrel three in the magazine or even
one in the barrel and five in the magazine

and when the gang passes you like the express train
and you can repetition quickly when you are ready
and you can take one from the middle and one from the end
In my opinion, this is more straightforward than a triplet or a Bock-Rifle gun

I think triplets and BBF are wonderful no question
but especially as the first weapon I find the repeater easier.

Bison

30.09.2009,
4:14 pm

@ Sebaho

Young hunter / first rifle

Hello Sebaho,
Small misunderstanding, I didn't want to praise the triplet (although it deserved it), but rather portray the 6x42 ZF as sufficient for the beginning - apart from that - unfortunately I'm a little out of practice because I'm now a pure hide hunter - this triplet had - I cannot and do not want to generalize it! from old Suler production not only an automatic sight, no, it was also specially "built" for driven hunts
(similar to the driven hunt visor by Krieghoff (I think) with a skeletonized rear sight and bar grain) and shot the bullet and both Brenneke in a beer felt at 50 m!
Wasn't a manual tensioner, only had a Greener fuse, I was still able to pierce it without it banging - and has found a worthy successor, is again a max. 42 tube on it, the winter foxes and the three goats in late twilight (admittedly on free Area) didn't bother us!
Good Hunting

Boar

30.09.2009,
4:30 p.m.

@ kalli

Young hunter / first rifle

“I'm a young hunter and need a rifle at short notice. My
“Gun instructor, who is also a master bookmaker, got me a good one today
»Preserved rifle:
»" Mars ", 98 system, Made in England, 7x64 with" Mars "optics, reticle 4 for
»570.- offered.
»The weapon is technically and optically" ok ". She is shot in and immediately
»Applicable. Anyway, I wanted to buy a used rifle first
»About the first experiences and probably also demands on one
“Collect weapon.
»Question: is the purchase ok?

There has already been enough advice here, just this much from me:

remote diagnosis is never possible - the same thing as buying a car - see and test drive!

So shoot that thing and decide for yourself!

Greetings Keiler

PS. 7x64 is a purely German caliber - nowhere in the world, except in Germany you can get Mun. to!

Schaffer

30.09.2009,
4:42 pm

@ UNKAS

Young hunter / first rifle

»» Question: is the purchase ok?
»
»Look through + you will see ...
»
»
»Hello kalli,
»
»Keep your hands off the '98!
“You buy something like that as a second or third weapon
»Buy a combined, drilling, over and under rifle or rifle as
»First weapon ....


Don't listen to this nonsense. He just wants to get rid of his worn wall bushes

A repeater is the better choice, unless you buy a really expensive new, thermally stable farmhouse furniture.

Regarding the weapon itself: Ok. The only thing I can't say is what the glass dips.

Price is ok IF the glass not only had Trashklo "quality", but could at least get hold of Meopta or Nikon.
If it still shoots precisely, bargain down to 500, buy and probably only need a new Zeiss for the rest of your life.

KVHS13

01.10.2009,
02:06 am

@ keiler12

Young hunter / first rifle

»Or if you come from near Würzburg then look there on 9 and 10
»October in Rotendorf near Frankonia over there is a special sale, there you get
»You up to 70% off weapons.

Why didn't I get an invitation?
The last card I got had luxury weapons on it.
Is that true, isn't the clothing outlet in Roterndorf?

Good tip, I'm going there!

WH

grafenreuther

01.10.2009,
11:33 am

@ kalli

Young hunter / first rifle

Have a Mars Rep., Caliber 7x64, not even a meter long, super easy to handle,
and shoot like the devil, but I bought it used with a man
8x Zeiss for 550, -
therefore I find the offer a bit expensive ...

Emirates

01.10.2009,
2:39 pm

@ kalli

Young hunter / first rifle

“I'm a young hunter and need a rifle at short notice. My
“Gun instructor, who is also a master bookmaker, got me a good one today
»Preserved rifle:
»" Mars ", 98 system, Made in England, 7x64 with" Mars "optics, reticle 4 for
»570.- offered.
»The weapon is technically and optically" ok ". She is shot in and immediately
»Applicable. Anyway, I wanted to buy a used rifle first
»About the first experiences and probably also demands on one
“Collect weapon.
»Question: is the purchase ok?

Hello kalli,

my tip: save a little and buy something good where fits.

You start when the optics don't fit - you may have to have the assembly reworked plus a new riflescope, you can buy something new for a few euros more.

Note: Those who save often buy twice.

A weapon has to fit - no compromise! You have to have confidence in the weapon.


Greetings Emirates



@Schaffer: On the subject of having a different look: This is often only possible with high costs (assembly) - therefore you should consider 1. new or 2. wait until what is used comes where it fits.

Boar

01.10.2009,
3:04 p.m.

@ Emirates

Young hunter / first rifle

“Greetings, Emirates
»
»
»
»@Schaffer: On the subject of having a different look: That is often only possible
»With high costs (assembly) - therefore you should consider 1. new
»Or 2. wait until what is needed comes where it fits.

That's right, Emirates, you can get a rifle and glass together cheaper than mounting a new glass on an old plempe.
This is how I would do it - wait until something suitable is there, or look specifically for it. The market is full of it.

Greetings Keiler

Schaffer

01.10.2009,
10:09 pm

@ Boar

Young hunter / first rifle

»» Greetings Emirates
» »
» »
» »
»» @Schaffer: On the subject of having a different look: That is often possible
" just
»» With high costs (assembly) - therefore you should consider 1. new
»
»» Or 2. wait until what is used comes where it fits.
»
»Emirates agrees, you can get a rifle and glass together cheaper than open it
»To mount an old plempe on a new glass.
»That's how I would do it - wait until something suitable is included, or specifically
" search for. The market is full of it.
»
“Greetings to Keiler

As long as it is not an SEM, you can assemble it yourself. Sometimes more, sometimes less inexpensive. If possible, only wear my guns in weave, then it's quiet.
But also ne EAW swivel mount or ne Blaser saddle mount can be done by a normally gifted person with a few basic tools, including shooting. From the second and no later than the third weapon, it is even worthwhile to buy the tool.

boar12

01.10.2009,
11:32 pm

@ KVHS13

Young hunter / first rifle

»» Or if you come from near Würzburg then look there on 9 and 10
»» October in Rotendorf near Frankonia over there is a special sale, there
»Get
»» You up to 70% off weapons.
»
“Why didn't I get an invitation?
“The last card I got marked luxury weapons.
“Is that true, isn't the clothes outlet in Roterndorf?
»
“Good tip, I'm going there!
»
“WH

Hello KVHS13
The sale takes place in Rottendorf next to the main warehouse in the riding hall
instead of.